31% favor mandatory balance online

Slashdot reports on a Rasmussen Poll about American preferences regarding equal-time enforcement and the fairness doctrine for various media. "Nearly half of Americans (47%) believe the government should require all radio and television stations to offer equal amounts of conservative and liberal political commentary".  The most interesting part was that they also polled what percentage would like to see websites forced to manage a similar balance.  The overall number: a shocking 31%.

The slashdot summary:

30% of Americans Want "Balanced" Blogging

"In a recent Rasmussen poll looking at the public's attitudes toward a possible revival of the fairness doctrine by the Democrats, a surprisingly large percentage of those polled seek fairness doctrine mandates (originally intended for public airwaves) to cover the Internet as well. It is encouraging that a minority of people feel that way, but Democrats say 'hands-off the Internet ... by a far smaller margin than Republicans and unaffiliated voters. Democrats oppose government-mandated balance on the Internet by a 48% to 37% margin. Sixty-one percent (61%) of Republicans reject government involvement in Internet content along with 67% of unaffiliated voters.'

I'm not sure I trust the results of this poll, given its source and the fact that it's very hard to poll about complex technical issues like this.  The Rasmussen analysis seems to have a conservative bias, and since they don't offer the raw data up to nonsubscribers, it's hard to see if its justified.  Assuming these numbers are anything like true, it's discouraging that so many Democrats feel this way about the internet.  It's hard for me to believe that anyone who uses the web could believe this kind of enforcement is even possible.  The sheer number of independent sites online would be utterly infeasible to police without a giant Ministry of Information.  And what about user-driven websites where the administrators have little control over who writes what?  I have no problem with news programs being required to offer equal time, but the poll focuses a lot on talk radio and the web; mainly opinion-based media.  Controlling the expression of opinions is about as antidemocratic as it gets, no matter who it benefits.



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Re: 31% favor mandatory balance online (none / 0)

Totally against this.  Notice that the same people seem perfectly ok with leaving out a socialist, green, libertarian, or any other perspective, as they don't want those perspectives to get equal (any?) time.  


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by freedom78 on Thu Aug 14, 2008 at 07:51:29 PM EST

Re: 31% favor mandatory balance online (none / 0)

That's one of the problems I see with broadcast equal time.  If you give equal time to everyone, you've got to include all the major third parties.  If not, then you're defering to demographics and you should give the Republicans less time since there are currently significantly less registered Republicans.  But this doesn't seem fair, especially since you can only determine this kind of stuff with unofficial polls.


by semiquaver on Thu Aug 14, 2008 at 08:25:52 PM EST
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Re: 31% favor mandatory balance online (none / 0)

Nothing to do with parties, just ideology.  Green, socialist would be considered left and libertarian would be considered right.  

The dirty little truth of politics in America is that republicans and democrats are just right and left of center in the grand scheme of things.  The further you go out, the more extreme the views are.  Left encompasses everything left of center, right encompasses everything right of center, party affiliation has nothing to do with it.

That being said, 31% of the country are truly out of their minds.  As with the 47% that think this is a good idea on radio and tv.

The fairness doctrine was originally used to help right wing radio when left leaning radio was dominant.  Things change as the mood of the country changes.  It is a bad idea.


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by Brandon on Thu Aug 14, 2008 at 09:03:15 PM EST
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Re: 31% favor mandatory balance online (none / 0)

This is hilarious!  Do they expect someone to pay a bunch of hacks to blog for the losing side?  Who is "someone"?  Maybe what we see here is that 31% of the population has absolutely no idea how blogging works...


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by username on Thu Aug 14, 2008 at 07:55:32 PM EST

balance is needed.... (none / 0)

however coming from a country where the govt is involved in broadcasting, trust me when i say it has a HUGE downside.


"Democracy! Bah! When I hear that I reach for my feather Boa!" Allen Ginsberg
by canadian gal on Thu Aug 14, 2008 at 07:56:54 PM EST

Re: balance is needed.... (none / 0)

Of what sort?  I haven't experienced a whole lot of Canadian broadcast media (aside from Degrassi and Reboot, ah memories), but I've found that NPR in America, BBC in the UK, and NHK in Japan tend to provide very high-quality programming.


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by BishopRook on Thu Aug 14, 2008 at 08:14:24 PM EST
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Re: balance is needed.... (none / 0)

My canadian broadcast experience consists of the show Trailer Park Boys.

Oh yeah, and Kids in the Hall!


by semiquaver on Thu Aug 14, 2008 at 08:19:16 PM EST
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not a quality issue.... (none / 0)

the CRTC has their fingers in way to many things.  while in a way it protects canadian media from being swallowed by the monster media to the south of us - its too much.

i can't remember exactly what the numbers are, but in radio for example - you have to have a certain amount of canadian artists on per hour.


"Democracy! Bah! When I hear that I reach for my feather Boa!" Allen Ginsberg
by canadian gal on Thu Aug 14, 2008 at 08:25:19 PM EST
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Where did this idea even come from? (2.00 / 1)

I saw this on Slashdot earlier today.  I don't know who even came up with this question and poll, but it goes counter to what the Fairness Doctrine is supposed to be about.

In analog radio broadcast, the stations using any particular frequency must be carefully controlled to avoid interfering with each other's signals.  This meant that we needed a regulatory body to license access to the radio frequency and grant was was effectively a local monopoly of control over that slice of the spectrum

Because private entities were being granted a government-sponsored monopoly over what was considered the public airwaves, regulations were put in place to ensure that those private entities were providing a useful service to the public, and the Fairness Doctrine was among those regulations.

The Internet is nothing like broadcast media.  It is:

  • Not local
  • Not public (it's an interconnected collection of private networks)
  • Not self-interfering

The people supporting this idea need to understand that the Internet is a completely different beast and neither can be nor should be regulated the same way as broadcast media.


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by BishopRook on Thu Aug 14, 2008 at 08:22:27 PM EST

Re: Where did this idea even come from? (2.00 / 1)

The distinction would be easy enough to demonstrate, should the need ever arise. According to those rules, you wouldn't be allowed to run your own site where you gave out your own political opinions.

By definition, the web is open to all opinions and anyone can offer one. Unlike radio/television/newspapers, where there is a very high barrier for entry and, for broadcast media, a very limited number of entries.


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by vcalzone on Thu Aug 14, 2008 at 08:36:47 PM EST
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Re: Where did this idea even come from? (none / 0)

I'm wondering that as well.  The line from slashdot "possible revival of the fairness doctrine by the Democrats" seems kind of suspect, but at least some news outlets, or at least blogs, are talking about this.

Rasmussen says that democrats in congress favor this:

Conservatives have expressed alarm in recent months over congressional Democratic efforts to restore the so-called Fairness Doctrine which would mandate politically balanced commentary on the airwaves.
, although I hadn't heard anything about it, and the google news search doesn't turn up any sources directly confirming that fact.  Also, wikipedia claims that there's a significant difference between equal-time and the fairness doctrine, though Rasmussen seems to use the terms interchangeably.

The real debate here, if there is one, is about a revival of equal time, or at least mandatory rebuttals, on radio and TV.  No one serious wants to push this onto the internet.  If anyone is I would absolutely love to see a detailed proposal about an actual implementation.  I haven't read much comedy lately.


by semiquaver on Thu Aug 14, 2008 at 08:41:02 PM EST
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Re: 31% favor mandatory balance online (none / 0)

Y'know, this isn't really about the fairness doctrine at all, I would suggest. It's about a media that no longer puts as much emphasis on real news, instead just bringing on people who parrot contrasting opinions. There's very little discussion of what is factually correct or covering real problems, only the solutions that are offered.

People don't want both conservative and liberal news, they want objective news and programming that is less angry.


"Hey, check it out. You just had yourself a glue OD. So you're learning another lesson. Don't do too much glue, or your night sucks."
by vcalzone on Thu Aug 14, 2008 at 08:34:40 PM EST

Re: 31% favor mandatory balance online (none / 0)

Some people want that, but if the public didn't want angry pundits, their ratings wouldn't be so great.


by semiquaver on Thu Aug 14, 2008 at 08:42:29 PM EST
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Re: 31% favor mandatory balance online (none / 0)

The problem with mandatory balance is that, as another commenter noted above, the idea is driven by the FCC jurisdiction on over-the air  radio frequency bandwidth uses, and that the FCC  issues broadcast licenses. The broadcasters giving offense are Fox cable over against Fox news, one outside regulation and one inside, msnbc over against nbc, same problem, and like that. Not internet.

I may not like what a lot of the posters on talkleft or No quarter say, but they are simply not in the same position as an over the air tv station which monopolizes the available bandwidth  available for use in a particular broadcast area, and carries only one side. The only limit on finding someone neutral or with your views on the internet is literally finding them, because every last view in the world is here somewhere.

The problem with applying it outside that narrow band is that the FCC does not have jurisdiction over cable TV which does not come over the air, and does not have the same kind of jurisdiction over cell phones and all their cousins, because that's a telephone sort of use.


by Christy1947 on Fri Aug 15, 2008 at 02:09:43 PM EST


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